the dreaming-body

“When we first sat down here to talk, I said that no rational assumptions should interfere with the actions of a seer,” he continued in a stern tone. “I knew that in order to reclaim what you’ve done, you’d have to do it in the level of awareness you are in now.’

He explained that I had to understand that rationality is a condition of alignment, merely the result of the position of the assemblage point. He emphasized that I had to understand this when I was at that moment. To understand it when my assemblage point had reached the position where there are no doubts was useless, because realizations of that nature are commonplace in that position. It was equally useless to understand it in a state of normal awareness; in that state, such realizations are emotional outbursts that are valid only for as long as the emotion lasts.

“I’ve said that you traveled a great distance that day,” he said calmly. “And I said that because I know it. I was there, remember?”

I was sweating profusely out of nervousness and anxiety.

“you traveled because you woke up at a distant dreaming position,” he continued. “When Genaro pulled you across the plaza, right here from this bench, he paved the way for your assemblage point to move from normal awareness all the way to the position where the dreaming body appears. Your dreaming body actually flew over an incredible distance in the blink of an eyelid. Yet that’s not the important part. The mystery is in the dreaming position. If it is strong enough to pull you, you can go to the ends of this world or beyond it, just as the old seers did. They disappeared from this world because they woke up at a dreaming position beyond the limits of the known. Your dreaming position that day was in this world, but quite a distance away from the city of Oaxaca.”

“How does a journey like that take place?” I asked.
“There is no way of knowing how it is done,” he said. “Strong emotion, or unbending intent, or great interest serves as a guide; then the assemblage point gets powerfully fixed at the dreaming position, long enough to drag there all the emanations that are inside the cocoon.”
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I told don Juan that since both of  us had ended up that day in the same place, I wondered whether it was possible for two or more people to wake up at the same dreaming position.

“Of course”, he said. “That’s the way the old Toltec sorcerers took of into the unknown in packs. They followed one another. There is no way of knowing how one follows someone else. It’s just done. The dreaming body just does it. The presence of another dreamer spurs it to do it. That day you pulled me with you. And I followed because I wanted to be with you.

I don’t know where you’re at with the whole not wanting to see the magician’s hand thing. I can certainly relate from my emotions during particular points as things intensified during the sort of shamanic initiation of the last 4-5 years of my life. I guess to me the seeing is just a means to great adventure and freedom, not an end to get all caught up in. Being able to see a very different reality means that we can encourage the ability to see many different types of reality. I don’t mean to sound like it’s not arresting at times, but making my intent clear in that I’m interested in freedom and exploration, and friends or compatible explorers who I find traveling the same/similar paths -I’m interested in the journey; not in trying to reduce everything to mechanics, but using what I glean of the mechanics to interface with the mystery. btw, no I’m not stuck in the past, this is fresh from what appeared to be you contacting me during a very otherwise ‘regular’ type dream of mine, then happened to read the above book parts later that day. So anyway what’s up with the differential memory of these dream things, do you think? Like I said in one of the other posts in this cat, there have been several times over the years when I recall what seems to have been an attempted connection (rather than internal subconscious sorting stuff, for example). Then there are the phantom general connections. I remember once about 3-4 years ago walking out onto a pier and seeing an ocean filled with people floating in it (symbol for collective dreamspace I suppose) and noticed/ tuned into you. Then something about homey feeling/scene and you reading to a kid. I suppose it was a little view/connection of what you were up to at the time.

A lot of this- my understanding of a resonance, and the parting misunderstanding between us- are things I ‘just knew something about’ ..and since it was the first times I received those kinds of messages it really stood out. The things I see, it’s not just the future, though at times it’s clearly that kind of message, sometimes it’s been the past/future, like the dreaming unconscious >seeing history marching along on a green and blue planet, and watching/being a part of it unfolding, but it’s always along my ray-of-creation. If it’s past it’s connected to my past..or if future, my future. Sometimes I get similar messages about other people, but usually they are more distant (in perception, but nearer in time), not as clear, like respectfully or just naturally resonance laws I suppose. I’ve had just enough future type ‘messages’ that I can get a gist of how literal-v-symbolic the symbols of the vision are, and this tells me how much attention to pay to the context. I’ve experienced more of this since back then, but my grasp of it is only slightly more rounded than before, which has lead me further away from materiality in its own way I suppose. In any case, I was especially unprepared for the clear messages about your needing to do romantic love bonding stuff before greater tandem exploration / fun like our friendship is about– and the then meetings that have occurred, reminding me of the underlying resonance. it’s not at all about exclusivity. Maybe you’re at a place where you can understand that it had/has nothing to do with romantic love, but a simple and brilliant experience of connecting and being able to see and be seen another/by another, but what’s more, seeing what all there is to explore and see with another being, the synergy and company I suppose. And so like the first anything, perhaps what we encountered are some very basic lessons in frequency resonance, for what it’s worth I’m sure there are other beings out there with whom we have an even greater resonance. And certainly there are different types of resonance, I’m quite happy with the ways I resonate with several people in my life, for example. Yet as far as exploring the edges of a logical realm that begs for it // progressing, and seeking greater freedom, creativity, those kinds of connections > I see the most viable sparks in these truth-visions about you. Don’t get me wrong, I’m going where I’m going anyway, and it’s true what you said about how we can’t encumber ourselves with hope to grow in similar enough ways to still be relevant to one another, but I keep hearing echoes so you can’t be all that far away // it’s fun to explore on my own, but the synergy and company feel so much more exciting and meaningful = this is the gist of the many relived past/future visions related to you =whatever the resonance dynamics might be, we are unique beings able to pull ourselves out of one reality bubble and watch or interact or dive-in to other realities and there are complimentary types of beings who make things more flexible SO, you know, I’ve never meant to suggest that we’re soul mates or anything, just that there is a lot I could learn from you and experience tells me such things are reciprocal ,and that’s just one of those things that I know. I don’t mean to evoke the magician’s hand for you or anything (friendly jab), so I’ll reduce this to pretty shapes. When the great infinite consciousness diversified it did so by splitting into aspects which became the laws of each succeeding density/layer of the is. Just like understanding interactive forces like creative/destructive/balancing help to avoid system backlash for seeking freedom (that which lies outside the system one is within), so does connecting with complementary people.

who knows,  maybe we’ll just continue to be phantoms in each others’ lives , somehow helping to slingshot the other, until we don’t. HELLO-Hello-(hello) ;P

music floats to mind [listen]:

ohgr/welt/lusid

July 1st, 2009